Mad Sweeney

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  WT Flip-Flops on Jesus’ Inspection… Was it in 1918 or 1919?... Did the WT PASS or FAIL?

  by Alfred in

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  this is utterly ridiculous.... .

  the more i research this particular subject, the more flip-flops i uncover.

  it seems the fds cant even make up their minds regarding what happened in 1918 (or should i say 1919?).

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  Mad Sweeney

  Alfred, hats off to you for discovering this.

  I've never seen this series of flip-flops even mentioned before, let alone enumerated so perfectly. I think it might be even worse than the toes of the image flip-flops.
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  Do the brothers have to follow an outline when they give talks?

  by Joliette in

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  since i was a sister at the kingdom hall, i was a little confused when the brothers give talks as a kid.

  do the brother work around an outline, or do they write around the outline.

  how does this work?.

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  Every body of elders picks one of their members to supposedly keep an eye on the speakers to make sure they follow the outlines. I don't know of any who ever actually carried out the assignment.
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  Evolution Thread to continue conversation with BIOFLEX

  by NewChapter in

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  bioflex, i am starting this thread so that the other one doesn't get hijacked.

  here is where you left off.

  bioflex please stop talking about evolution you are off topic and your ignorance of the subject is deeply embarassing.

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  I don't think Dawkins is trying to reach religious people with this book. It seems to me that he's trying to reach the young people who are growing up on Neil Gaiman and Philip Pullman while their minds are still open and willing to accept the idea that there is no scientific evidence for the supernatural, and as science explains more and more about the natural universe, the supernatural explanation becomes less and less necessary and convincing.

  Most chapters start out with myths about the origins of whatever the topic is (the sun, rainbows, etc.). Then the rest of the chapter explains the science behind the topic. It is obvious to the reader which makes more sense.

  Of course it's going to piss off religious people who suffer from a god delusion, because they are unwilling to entertain the possibility of being wrong. I think Dawkins would gladly welcome god into his home if only god could be bothered to show up. Would your typical fundamentalist welcome Richard Dawkins?
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  New York Times June 22, 1918

  by Nathan Natas in

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  ================ text version below ==========.

  20 years in prison for 7 russellites.

  judge howe scores men who.

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  They were not exonerated, nor were the charges dropped.

  The original case was dismissed on a technicality (I don't recall whether it was on appeal or whether the technicality was simply discovered by the authorities) and when it came up for re-trial, the war was over and the prosecutor had better things to do - worse criminals to prosecute.
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  Is POLYGAMY ever justifiable? I say yes, Yes, and YES!!!!!!

  by Judge Dread in

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  it is in the nature of man to want to have more than one woman.. a man cannot help himself.

  he was born that way.. if it was legal, men would have multiple wives, two, three, maybe ten if he could afford it.. that's all.. jdw .

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  Yeah, lets take society back in time three thousand years. Sounds like a brilliant idea.

  
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  Ireland Bethel up for sale

  by Mattieu in

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  http://www.wicklowpeople.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hq-goes-on-market-2910987.html.

  whenever a new branch or k/hall is built, its always proof that supposedly j is blessing his people and speeding up the work.

  does that mean when they have to close a bethel branch it means he is pissed off with "his people"????.

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  Isn't it interesting how they started ramping up their real estate investments just as they were preparing to discontinue literature sales?

  There is NO QUESTION that they view real estate as an investment. It's their only real money maker now.
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  Notification Of Disfellowshipping Or Disassociation Forms

  by Bangalore in

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  notification of disfellowshipping or disassociation forms.. .

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  bangalore.

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  Sweet. Thanks for posting.
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  Some pretty blatant stuff coming up in bookstudy

  by agent zero in

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  so i was reading ahead in the bookstudy book "bearing thorough witness" about god's kingdom, and i came upon some shockingly direct damage control on behalf of the gb in the material for the upcoming weeks.. on page 104: what a privilege it is to be instructed and molded by our patient and kind heavenly father!

  the results are always good and always to our advantage.

  so let us never proudly push ahead with our own ideas or react negatively to organizational changes or to adjusted explanations of certain scriptures.

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  NVR2L8 I LOVE the analogy of the two smoke detectors. The Borg false "alarm" goes off in 1874, 1879, 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1975 and they say, "SEE? Our alarm system WORKS!" Any normal homeowner would have thrown the thing out after the first couple false alarms.

  As for whether this is just normal Watchtower GB propaganda, the significance of this stuff is that it isn't a random paragraph in a Watchtower article praising the GB - which there always has been and still is plenty of. This is an ENTIRE BOOK dedicated to establishing the Borg leadership as descending in a direct line from first century Christianity. It's the most audacious attempt at doing such a thing that they've ever done.
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  What is it with OBVES that you give him/her the time of day ?

  by smiddy in

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  i am at a loss as to understanding why some people give so much time and energy to responding to people like obves on this board ,,,,,,,,and of course he`s not the only one , ,,,,,,,,,why do we give these guys the platform to espouse their dribble ?

  on this site ?

  it is an exjw site is it not,?

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  I'll give anyone the time of day as long as they're not trolling, and I think OBVES is sincere. Sincerely off-base but sincere. He's not out to start fights and arguments.
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  Evolution Thread to continue conversation with BIOFLEX

  by NewChapter in

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  bioflex, i am starting this thread so that the other one doesn't get hijacked.

  here is where you left off.

  bioflex please stop talking about evolution you are off topic and your ignorance of the subject is deeply embarassing.

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  Mad Sweeney

  Before genetic sequencing there *might* have been some valid debate. Now there is none. Evolution is real. Read about it. Learn it. Deal with its repercussions in a rational way. People who don't "believe in" evolution, do not understand evolution.

  "The Magic of Reality" is Richard Dawkins' latest book. It is illustrated by Dave McKean (in addition to many photos, charts, and graphs). It is written so that people approximately age 12 and up can understand the wonders of the natural world. In other words, it is written at around the upper level of Watchtower literature. Engaging and clearly stated. I highly recommend it. (It's a $30 book but you can get it online for just over half that.)